People, I started this thread as a simple concept and it has degraded to ego threatening high school foolishness. Please focus on the core concept of volume or weight measure and why you do what. I don't condemn anyone for what they do. Maybe I suck at volume measurement. To compensate I choose to weight out ahead of time a charge of 73-75gr and It gives me excellent results. I am also a accuracy nut and trigger snob. I don't take offense at someone not having the same craziness I do.