You sure are right Cayugad! I could barely get behind his shoulder and the barnes bullet actually went through both lungs but must have bounced off a back rib and was barely under the skin by his pecker. When I started gutting him I found the bullet right there. It had the four petals that they are famous for and looked to have perfomed well for the shot. Probably should have taken a neck shot at that short a distance but I always prefer the double lung myself. He went about 100 yards down the trail with a decent blood trail to start with that just got better the closer I got to him.