I have a stainless CVA Optima that I have been shooting Triple Seven pellets and various 230, 240 and 250 grain saboted bullets in. It is more accurate with all of them then I am. The finger removable breech plug is great. I also have a stainless Wolf that I bought new for $166 at a Wally World sale. It is very much like the Optima with a shorter barrel. I use iron sights on the Wolf, it is a very fast and handy gun for shorter ranges, the Optima is scoped and I think most would agree that it is a capable 200 yard deer rifle with 120 grains or so of Triple Seven and a decent 250 or 300 grain saboted bullet. You can pay much more for another brand and type of gun but it is hard to beat the accuracy and easy to clean features of a stainless Optima or Wolf.