Evidently most here have not hunted elk in the sagebrush or flat open areas in eastern Washington...we like to see the elk that are a mile away....ever saw an elk run?? it doesn't take them long to cover that mile between you.... here the object is to see the elk a LONG ways away, figure out where they are going and get there before them, and shoot them when they come to you!!! I use Nikon 10X42s they are the best glass I can afford and work well.......here we are shooting at 500yds if need be, we have already glassed them and pick out the shooters.........we hunt differently than you do up in the mountains.....here the elk are down low and close in, where the country is basically flat and very open with little or no cover.....................