Originally Posted by Oldtimr

Norby, I have killed two whitetails w/ the LE .45-70, ammo that were hit in the crease behind the shoulder, my favorite shot. Both deer had soup in the chest cavity, lungs were reduced to 50 cent sized pieces and on one the heart was shot off where to attaches to the vessels and was mush. A third gave me a shot of the top of the shoulder and the neck as it was behind a tree. It went right down, hit e the neck meets the shoulder and it crawled about 15 yards and pumped all its blood out onto the ground. I have been deer hunting for over 50 years and I have seen a lot of blood trails, I have never seen one like this one. Completely took off the carotid The right .45 cal bullet will expand if it is the right bullet made to do so. That red plastic point on the LE ammo is not only to allow it to be used in a tube magazine, it is also for expansion and it works as advertised.