The PRB thing is eating away at me. As good as the NoExcuses work, I still want to shoot more traditional.

I got ahold of Bobby Hoyt's phone#, and left a message. Right after hunting season is over i'll send him my barrel to be bored out to .58 with a slow twist.

I read on another forum that someone sent him a Renegade .50 barrel, and had Bobby make it a .58 with a 1-90 twist, .007 rifling depth, and narrow lands with wide grooves. He said it shoots cloverleafs. I'll ask Bobby if he still recommends that combo. It's a pretty slow twist for a 26" barrel, but it seems to work. The guy was using a .575 ball, pillow ticking patch, and 120gr of 2f Goex. Stout load, but will seem easy after these 460gr NoExcuses.