where I hunt You can' t use a climber in many places. I also like to hunt as many places as possible so what I have done is spiked about 25 different trees in my 2 or 3 hunting areas and carry in my API hang on stand w/ the strap and sinch down belt. I have never had another stand, is ther a better one out there. I want somthing that is light, easy to hang, comfotable and sturdy.