Hey cannon just this year before bow season i bought the hawgs limt' d pre/ post rut formula and BF gland and i started the season freshening one single scrape that i had found that he' d be working. Well when i went to camp this in webster co. i not only had to doctor up my origional scrape, but had to do five other scrapes that he made I ran outta the stuff! Im convinced that it worked for me but i think the key was that i used the pre rut formual which is milder and less strong early as opposed to the CB.