Originally Posted by cayugad

I have shot the same load. And true, its uncomfortable to say the least. Since the rifle was not scoped, I knew he'd get no scope eye out of it. And I should not admit this to you as you will get bent out of shape, but.. It was kind of funny to watch him finally get to shoot, as he so demanded. And maybe it was not the right thing to do, even the smart thing to do, but I did it. I take the responsibility for it. And would have taken the responsibility had be been hurt. I truly detest children and young people, even adults for that matter, that think they can scream their way to attention. When did children become so pushy? And since this has no bearing on helping this person with loads for his Renegade, this will be my last post on the subject.