Originally Posted by
muzzleloader1
The best is definitely a Bad Bull Muzzleloader, but I don't think I would want to spend that kind of money on one.
You are aware that a Badbull load data ONLY includes 130-140gr of IMR4350 or Pellets. No other powder is approved and that is a ton of smokeless.
At one time you had to shoot the load out of a BadBull. You could not "de-prime" it otherwise and you still cant on the UTE model. The current "2 stage" priming system is not as user friendly as some other LRMP designs either.
I would put a Gunwerks or a Jeff Hankins rifle up against them any day. You dont need 140gr of 4350 and/or 30" of barrel to break 3000fps. You could safely reach that speed in a variety of customs with roughly 78-80gr of 4198.
Or better yet....
A Swinglock in 45 or 416 if you really want to push the limits.
http://www.swinglock.net/
Swinglock 416
840yards
375gr bullet over 3000fps
http://youtu.be/gFjCjk0t6tM