I have a group of friends that hunt the first rifle season with open sight 30-30 and 45-70. They are generally 4-5 out of 6 and have yet to lose one yet that I can remember. They all limit their shots to less than 200 yards so they have to pass on many opportunities. However, you can't argue with their success rate (all public land). It is not my cup or tea, but for them it works great.