Well then, this seems settled. Plenty of deer have been killed with a 22LR.(Though the 45-70 references are the opposite end of the spectrum from a 200xtp). I didn't like having to use my fingers to search the offside of the deer I killed just to find the exit wound nor following his tracks 100yds across the field with not a drop of blood in oncomming rain. Maybe I pushed the bullet too hard with 100gr but I'm looking for a bullet that performs from 10 to 200yds and the 200xtp doesn't appear to bo it for me. Might be fine at 200 but was not at 25. I guess that's why god made both blondes and brunettes.