I knew where there was a few birds last year that I could not get because of the hens being with them.. Along with one big tom that was scared of the calls right from the get go. I got to see him up close after I had nailed a jake for my second bird. It was a real wet day after a big rain and wind storm had taken place. I was driving back with the jake when the tom took running right along side of my truck in some brush. I will be trying for him again as he had a nice beard on him..

I also noticed last year they were very quite during most of the season here as well. Now with our cold temps and heavey snow fall I am hoping they will treat me good our first week.. This fella is going to be on vacation that week so I will be finding out.. Thanks everyone for the input.. I was figuring it would be like using the same methods but was not sure..