big uncle, I agree with you. talking over the guys head wont do him any good if he doesn't know what everyone is talking about. a single stage press is a good start to get into loading. don't know if a kit can be found for $250, but like one of the guys said, keep a look out for someone getting out of the reloading business. might pick up a good deal. also getting a good reloading manual is most important. Hornady is the one I recommend.