I got mine 12/13 from BPS for $199.00 with a T/C 3X9X40 scope mounted. Being new to muzzle-loading, it was impressive enough to kill a nice AL 8pt with the tenth shot ever fired. Looking forward to working up a good load, have bullets in 40/44/45 to play with. Gun cleaned up nicely with windex and patches, CLP kept it rust free over summer. Left it loaded all deer season and fired that round after season-it had held zero just fine. Well pleased with it.