I'd help you out Mike, but didn't get any deer this year. I've used your seasonings before and really liked them, I've made summer,polish,brats,hot dogs,canned meat,and sticks with your products. Have been doing it about 5yrs now and have gotten better at it since the start. Learned to write recipes down in a book that I keep with the seasonings now. I see Charlie here in Wahoo is stocking a bunch of your products now,makes kind of convenient for the wife and me. She's down there all the time. Rod