barefoot, I have two Ithica Model 37 pump guns. I took my first two toms with one and carried one of them for years. Last year I bought a Rem 870 SPT. The reason is my Ithica guns were not camo, they were 2 3/4 ", and they had factory full chokes built into the barrel. My 870 came in camo with a sling, 3 1/2", and had screw in chokes. I looked hard at a number of different brands of scatterguns before making my choice. I like my Ithica's a lot, but could not find a store in my area that carried them outfitted like I wanted, and the 870's are hard to beat so I went with one of them. I will still use my Ithica for pheasant,chucker and grouse.