Hey Sabotloader, I've never gone sabotless but have always been curious about something. if you ever get the time would you consider satisfying my curiosity?

Do you by any chance have a bottle of Lee Liquid Alox? If so, roll up a single sheet of toilet paper into a tight ball and dip it in Liquid Alox. Prepare a few such balls ahead of time and let them dry. Then use them instead of Sub Bases for two or three sabotless shots and see what happens.