I'm thinking that I am going to look into the V-Max or Nos. bal. Tips for l know he could care less about mess. Just holes in hides!!!! I am also going to look into either the IMR 4350,4320 or 4064 powder and see what we get as well. The rifle is a Win Model 70 in pretty nice shape for what he paid for it. I peeked down the barrel and it looks good as well. Will know more after I clean it and look at it again.