I believe that the reason that we see very little is more to do with the amount of pressure and the fact that it is so thick. If you spend some time and walk around you will see that there is a lot of game sign. In fact, there is more game sign than in places that I see a lot more game. I think many of us have a misconception of when the rut is. Hunting peak rut is very difficult. This is when the deer are breeding and they generally hold up in the thick stuff. We want to hunt the pre rut. This is when the deer are chasing, fighting, and seeking. I shot a buck on December 1st that was in rut. The majority of the deer go into pre rut in January. Hunting peek rut will do nothing to improve the hunting.