Our gang used a canvas wall tent made by Woods for a number of years for moose hunting. It was 14 x 16 when we bought it and heavy as a horse. Darn thing shrank and we couldn' t fit it around our frame after one season. The very first day we set it up a bear tore 3 of 4 corners open and its been downhill from there ever since. However, I will say that nothing beats the sound of rain on its roof while you' re inside warm and dry.