I've had numerous climbing stands and my only complaint was that I felt like I ended up hunting a tree more often than a certain area. If you do go with a climber I would definitely recommend a hand saw so you can saw off limbs that could get in the way on your way up the tree. I went to a lone wolf hang on last year and with the climbing sticks I love it. Not too heavy and can go up any tree that'll hold my 240 pound self