personally i quit using shockwaves always had very little blood trail now i use barnes tez 290 s alot of guys stick to xtps but ive had them open up while hunting in a treestand & shooting into some lite to medium cover but chit happens all the guys on those tv shows say they use a tc shockwave & show deer drt but will also show them shooting something in the morning & recoveringit in the dark go figure