I never killed an elk or deer in Colorado over 60 yrds or with a rifle. I hunt with a muzzleloader. I like hunting in sept here. I do have a spot here where I used a tree stand. Helps me see. My trail cams helped me out finding that spot. I killed out of that tree stand in Colorado. This year my binos and calls helped me kill an elk. No I didn't kill the one I wanted but you can't eat horns so I was happy. My 30 yard kill at a cow was better than the shot that most people would have attempted at a 6x7 bull though think brush.