One of the problems is that there is no deer dog training season, so most guys start running their dogs in the evening and let them run all night so that they are in shape by the time the season starts. If they dont then the dogs are out of shape in the start of the season and dont hunt as well. I hunt archery and blackpowder so I can understand, but I also dog hunt as well so I see both sides. Hunters here in Va. have been hunting with dogs since Jamestown was settled. It is part of the history and heritage of this state. Times have changed and most of the land is cut up and a lot of landowners and hunters are from outside the state and do not care about the heritage. Not sure if there will ever be a time when both sides of the issue are happy. Unethical hunters on both sides make things much more complicated.