wtc, No problem. Where is a link to that stat? What about Pope & Young numbers between the two. That is a better indicator. If it's the same as when I lived there, Indiana had a total of 32 gun days, a full half which occurred during prime rut. That is brutal. In the 90's Indiana was the 2nd worst P&Y state in the Midwest in terms of P&Y's taken per hunter issued tags, next to Michigan.