Hmm, not sure how far around the scrapes are you searching for the rubs? Got one area that i just started hunting this past weekend that has 3 scrapes in a single 40 yard area, 1 sapling/ ground area destroyed from 2 bucks fighting. But all the rubs are about 50 yards further down hill paralleling a creek. They are coming to the top for the acorns and entering the food plot from here so it may just take some walking around the area mid day to find them.