Im already tagged out in Kansas Oct 13th. I found several scrapes over hang over licks on the edges of the Milo and decided to hang my climber on the edge and it payed off. I posted the picture of the buck yesterday you s hould be able to find it. Already seeing snow up there. I think the rutt will be right on time. I would def be in the stand end of Oct through 1st 2 weeks of Nov.