I may have misunderstood your initial message. If you are hunting Unit 78 from the Pagosa side of the old Elwood pass road. Head up to where the Crater lake stream meets the road and head towards the ridge west of Crater Lake it's called Bear Creek just on the other side of that ridge to the west is a gem of a bench that see's very few people hunt but mind you it's rough and elk will move off into there from pressure on the Unit 80 side. I have hunted that a lot but it's not for the faint of heart. Make sure you anchor your animal fast I've had to tie them to rocks just to get them gutted and quartered so they don't slide way down the mountain. Have a great hunt