I have the 45 encore and I love it.I shoot 155 grain t/c xtp' s and 100 grains of pyrodex with open sights.I have harvested 2 bucks this season and they did' nt make it thirty yards before dropping.The XTP on both shots made complete pass throughs.I tried the 195 PB and got a good shot group but the 155 cloverd the first time I shot them.I found the 155' s at wal-mart.Try differant loads you will be amazed at what a .45 will do.Good luck