Can't argue with any of you, I hate the peep tube. Got away from it for years but started back last year. I have to use a large peep because my right eye sight is really poor and have awful night vision due to an old eye injury. (no, it wasn't caused by a peep tube). If the peep gets turned at all I can't see especially in low light so I went to one of those peep aligner add on thingies with the tube. I'm thinking I need to change bow shops, the one I been using for years seems to be dragging on technology. Thinks for the replies, I'll go to another shop or two and see what's available.