They get so dang tough to pattern in these areas it seems. I've really struggled to find any natural funnels. We also have tried kill plots just inside of the swamp without getting right on top of them. We get pics, even day pics. But it's hard to hunt a wind when you're not sure where deer are bedded. I suspect my buddy and I are getting busted most of the time. I have tried to get him to hunt the swamp stands we have less, but that doesn't seem to interest him. And Im kinda stuck, because its his land. Anyway, I'm no Chuck Adams, but I think I do know my way around the woods - yet these big, thick swamps really humble me.