Check this out. I have hit a 12" steel plate with a 30-30 three out of five times at 550 yards. So that makes my 30-30 a 2 MOA gun at 550 yards about 50% of the time. LMAO

RR you'll have to correct me on the MOA but I think I'm close. lol

I've only hit the same plate twice out of 13 shots with a Lyman .54 muzzle loader.

Now for the relevance of this is while being true I did make those shots(add in the 6" 41mag just because you don't believe it already). It doesn't mean that I'm ready to go to a F Class shoot with a 30-30 and think I'm going to win it or even place. Everything has a place but there's no such thing as absolutes. It just means that sometimes a blind hog gets and acorn and some days even a hunting rifle can make outstanding shots. There's just better equipment for the job at longer ranges.

Now if you ask me why I shoot such guns at those ranges I'll say just for the hell of it and it makes me laugh win I do ring the steel. Because I just bucked a lot of odds.