Well that would not be a fair catch would it.he he like I am even going to get close to a elk in 511. I prob just wasted my money anyway.. Sniff sniff. But I am paying for the opportunity right, nothing beats experience. I am trying to teach my son to hunt but I don't even know how. I admit I have a hunting problem I can't find any thing legal to hunt.. But on the off note I did go out again this morning and look for the turkey sign...and of course just ended up with like 3 doe deer..FYI for hunters with 511 tags.. Call turkey and deer show up. OK for info purposes it was the west side of hayman fire area. Edge of 51