Symantec's! But whatever. Yes I did. But of course I am scouting like mad hoping CRad has a chance to meet me out there. I am going to try to help him fix his blinds and walk some trails. Drove down the old camp rd and hit the dead end.all looked good but I may be hunting hayman scar and that way north which means I will be crowded. We will see. Thanks for the sight and I read it before last year. And it helped to read it again.thanks...