Most of those people don't check the situation out before climbing into it either. JFYI Your never supposed to need the harness, guys that do find they needed one were careless to begin with, they fell and now are giving advice. I'd rather get advice from someone who didn't shoot themselves in the foot.

Just because a stand comes with straps doesn't mean that's all a person should use to hold it and themselves up there. Many people will hang a stand, step on it, feel it wiggle and wonder if it will hold and then use the thing just like that, that's just stupid! Put more straps on it and I've never seen one out of the box that didn't need more.

There are also way to many people in trees that don't belong there and they know it but some harness company tells them all they need is a harness when their brain is telling them this is a bad idea. It is a bad idea for people who never climb anything until the first day of hunting and they do it stressed and in the dark.

People are not supposed to fall, but some who have think it's a merit badge. "I Fell, so listen to me..." I think not. "You" fell because you were careless and now to make up for being careless, your not fixing what caused the fall, your wearing a harness preparing to fall again. LOL