mine was a nice 10 pt buck @264 yrds using a tc impact & a leupold 3x9 ultraslam & 110 grains of bh209 & a barnes 300tez bullet it came out of a protected state park & was turning around to go back in to the park only chance was to shoot it then & dropped drt tried to get up but never did but most of my shots i like to pet them first usually meaning within 17 yrds