Topgun you make me laugh. You get on a soap box and beat your chest on how your the ultimate hunter who's killed more deer than all of us all by 100 percent legal means and a law abider on every thing in the book and yet then you open your mouth and back a well know liar, violater, con man who couldn't be farther from a true hunter. Just because he has throphies on the wall doesn't mean he took them legal. I WONDER if his relative owning a deer farm had anything to do with the size of deer he shot in an area where NOBODY in 150 yrs has ever shot one. I guess you never took a statictics class. Anddon't start this crap that I'm a violator. All I said was like someone else if I'm hunting on my own land and can identify a big buck through my scope and know that I'm not going to shoot someone else I'm taking the shot. And so would 99.99% of hunters I don't care what you say I think and know now that your full of crap.