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Old 07-29-2013 | 07:36 PM
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Topgun 3006
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Originally Posted by Colorado Luckydog
Not that it matters to me because I would never hunt elk with a 30/30. (I'm not 13) BUT...........

With a good 150 to 160 grain bullet, how many feet per second and how many foot pounds of energy do you need to kill an elk with proper shot placement??
***Yes, the 30-30 can kill an elk and so can a .243, but the problem is how far might that animal go before it dies and might not be found compared to a bigger caliber designed for that bigger animal. Conventional wisdom from all the old timers back to Jack O Connor was that a deer should be hit with 1000 ft/lbs and an elk with 1500 ft/lbs of energy at POI to solidly anchor it. If that figure is used, it really limits the yardage of that 30-30. I've seen a number of bulls only flinch and stand there when hit with a 7 mm mag like it was a miss before a second shot took them down. All I'm saying is if the kid can shoot that 30-06 accurately like he's shown he can with no recoil or flinching problems, he should have no problem hitting the large vital area of an elk with a lot more energy with that 30-06 on a bi or tripod and will extend his range a lot compared to the 30-30.
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