Originally Posted by
Topgun 3006
***That information is incorrect in regards to the purchase of rifles and shotguns. Three years ago I saw a good deal on a Ruger Red Label O/U at Scheels in Iowa when on my way back from a hunt in Wyoming. My friend back here in MI was looking for one with a straight English style stock (no pistol grip)and they didn't have it at their Des Moines store when I stopped there. They called ahead to the Iowa City store that had one and they held it for a couple hours for me. I went in and showed my MI Drivers License for ID, they put me through the system and I came back good to go in less than five minutes. I paid for it on a CC and brought it back here, gave it to my buddy, and he wrote me a check for it! I just looked it up and it is still legal to this day to make a purchase like that in another state as long as the proper paperwork is filled out and you pass the background check. This is right out of the current Regs:
A person may only buy a firearm within the person's own state, except that he or she may buy a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee's premises in any state, provided the sale complies with state laws applicable in the state of sale and the state where the purchaser resides. [18 U. S. C 922( a)( 3) and (5), 922( b)( 3), 27 CFR 178.29]
Doesn't matter to me... He's not a Michigan resident, nor talking about a purchase in Iowa. He's an Indiana resident talking about a purchase in the state of Kansas, both of which states have tighter regs (like most states) than the Fed...
That line that says "complies with the state laws applicable in the state of sale and the state where the purchaser resides" is a very powerful statement, not to be overlooked.
Both KS and IN have laws about purchase and transfer of firearms across state lines (as most states do). These requirements for both states control that you can hand carry purchase from contiguous states only, all others must be transferred to a proper FFL within your home state of residence.
The state of KS only allows it's residents to purchase firearms in contiguous states, and in turn, the same law carries a ryder that only residents of those states are allowed to legally purchase in the state of KS. There has been some movement in recent years that would open up rights for KS RESIDENTS to purchase in states that have the same minimum requirements as KS, but it has not successfully been implemented yet, AND reciprocity for purchase in the state of KS has not been attached to the bill that I have seen yet. (i.e. if the bill passes, I might be able to buy in IN someday soon, but there's no bill on the table allowing IN to buy in KS yet). Ultimately, regardless of what the Fed says, the state of KS won't let him buy it here.
And he's from Indiana. Indiana's laws ALSO only allow for purchase from contiguous states, which KS is NOT. Kansas also doesn't have a system for handling FOIL cards, so if you're talking about the purchase of certain firearms, even if you dupe a KS shop to sell it to you, you will not have the proper documentation once you got back to your home state according to your purchasing 'rights'.
I won't comment as to whether you actually legally purchased that firearm at Scheels or not. For what it's worth, I was working in Nebraska all year this year, staying in Sioux City IA, tried to buy a rifle at Scheels there, which I didn't realize was actually on the Iowa side until the clerk refused the sale because I am a KS resident, which isn't contiguous to Iowa. Had the store been 1mi further west on the Nebraska side of the river, I could have purchased it legally.