a lot of good info here, thanks.
Had them out to shoot today, the kid shot both guns of a bench and did great. He had a great 6 round group with the 06. He also did good with the 30/30 and you can see that the gun just fits him better in a hunting situation. Well it will be up to them with which one to take I am just giving them the option. I will be sure to pass on the bullet suggestions to them.