I have one tree that I climb that is in the bottom of a very deep draw. Problem is that the deer I' m wanting are on the ridge. This necessitates about a 40-45 foot climb. I have to shorten the bottom cable once on the way up and I' ve found that the easiest way to do it is to attach the seat to the tree like normal and face out. Don' t forget the harness. I' ve personally put 4 bowhunters in wheelchairs for life because of treestand falls.