Originally Posted by
Bible_Man
I'm sure Adrian will show you some of his patterns...he has some phenomenal patterns, regardless of how big the gun is. You'll see when he posts. I've seen them before...I'd feel comfortable using it as a 60 yard gun. I won't use my 20 at 60 yards, but it doesn't pattern nearly as well as his. 60 would be the absolute limit with my 12.
Wait...did I just say that Adrian had just as good a pattern with his 20 as I do with my 12? Well, reckon that's the way it sounds.
BM , thanks for the understanding reply. I'm a lucky person and have the means to do all the testing I want to do. Kind a wish I had the money to keep supporting this test patterning but I believe after what I have done with this gun in the last 2 years for killing birds out a very max range that I have all the confidents in taking shots that most wont. I don't want to promote these distance shots and only want to let some know that it can be done if done properly and that takes more money then most will spend. I own $600.00 dollars in 7 different chokes in a case that all shoot great patterns at the 40-45 and even pushing 50 yards that I don't even use, they plain sit in a choke case all marked.
No I don't use that #7 shot as here where I live #6 is the smallest shot one can use, so I did all my testing with all #6 loads. I'm not wanting to push the argument at all but I also don't like to be made out to be a liar or a wind bag ether. Its knowledge that I have gained by only spending money to get what I was after and I try my very best to forward info that I have learned, but some I guess just will not believe my word.
I have patterns and have tossed out many 40 yard patterns that are the same as I could post.
There are so many people that have turned this patterning testing into a computation between turkey hunters and have went way to far with this #7 and #9 shot that most of us hunters just plain ignore this topic. As being a part of Hevi shot it has gave me a nudge ahead to use up rather expensive shells that most hate to burn up just on targets in the yard or range. I don't ever have a problem with shells and am the one that pushed them in Canada for the turkey hunters.
Just back a couple weeks ago I sat on a setup with another prostaffer and had a gobbler in strut out at 50 yards. The bird was in the plain view strutting to the hen that came in but would not come closer. I asked my partner if he could take the shot and he said that it was pushing it with his gun, to go ahead and take the shot if I could. One Cluck - Head up- 20gauge bang- gobbler drops like a rock. Not one problem at all at 50 yards I will not even think twice. Done it a number of times.
Pattern Dencity is the most important in a good shooting gun....