I am from the lower pin. in the " thumb" i have been seeing some symtoms of rut for about 2 weeks now. he bucks have not been all out chasing the does but they have been keeping very close behind, not letting them out of there site. the bucks have been responding well to grunt calls. i have been playing around w/ a couple of smaller bucks that i see 3-4 times a week. i grunt they come running to find nothing. they walk around the area and slowly wander away or hang out on the pile. if they wander far enough i grunt again sometimes they will come right back in. it is fun. good luck up there!