Pa. game commision predicted a good year last year and they later said the prediction was overly optimistic. This year they predicted a sharp downturn in pop. and that seems to have been correct. Mostly blamed on cycles. Personally, I haven' t been out much specifically for grouse but have seen few while driving dirt roads or pursuing other game. The only good news is that my harvest doesn' t change much whether the pop. is high or low because they are to damn hard to hit!