thanks for the response guys. well i can spend about $200. the only reason im considering a youth bow is because they come with arrows and other accessories. i have thought of a recurve. only problem i thought about with those is no adjustment. if i buy one with a low starting weight, say 20-40 lbs, once i get used to that ill need to upgrade again. another reason for considering the youth bow is itll reach 45 lbs draw weight. its legal to hunt in nl with that. if i could find an older bow for under $200, what are some things to check for.