Well Drew...I guess I put my money where my mouth was....I just bought the Mag33 yesterday. $529 bucks. With limbsavers and cable silencers it is quiet with very little recoil. If you are interested in a short A to A bow - you should highly consider the Mag 33. Now that I finally decided on a bow and got over my initial impulse to buy a better known bow - I am glad I made the choice I did. After shooting for a while last night I can say this bow smokes! Light, short, quiet, fast, and oh what a smooth draw. As others on this board told me - you can't go wrong with a Darton!