Haven't seen them here in Al yet, but our LE Only load for 14" Rem 11-87 shotguns (POS BTW) is an 8 pellet 00 buck that does manage to make the gun function. Most others except "magnums" jam, fail to extract. This load will keep the 8 pellet charge inside the 8 ring of a B27 target(the one that looks like a guy with his hand on his hip, head to lower waist profile). That is impressive from a 14" shotgun w/a cylinder bore. I'd buy it in the #5 load to shoot turkeys.