I have to agree with the others that 30 pellets in the head and neck at 40yds is a good pattern. I shoot 3.5" and do not get that many more in the head and neck at 40yds and have killed turkey at 50yds. All it takes is a couple of pellets in the head/neck region to kill a turkey. I heard of guys shooting 65+ yds, not advising that you should be shooting that far, and only hitting them with two or three pellets in the head and killing them.