I really dislike see thru mounts also, but for the opposite reason than others have. Having the scope sit up high isn't ideal, but it's workable for deer hunting. I find that the open sights are harder to see with those rings and the scopes eyepiece and objective lens just hovering above the sights. It's much harder to see a deer that's up close or running, with everything distracting from a clear view of the sights. I'm with Ridge Runner when it comes to scopes, if you're using the right scope for the job there's no such thing as being too close for a scope. Take a look at the Bushnell banner 1.5-4.5x32mm scope, this is my favorite scope for my lever action 30-30's. When mounted properly and turned down to 1.5 power, it's more like using a shotgun. Practice shooting with both eyes open, for me it's easier to use crosshairs than it is to align both sights with the target.